Daughter of Wilson Miller, a Muskogee (Creek) and Nancy Toney, a Cherokee. Here's my direct-lineage proving ancestry.Direct Famial Lineage: Cleopatra Powhatan1590-1641Mother of -> Pride Shawnee1615-1679Mother of -> Amatoya Moytoy1640-1730Father of -> Old Hop Moytoy1690-1761Father of -> Sookie Granny Grasshopper1730-1820Mother of -> Rachel Tookah McDaniel1763-1792Mother of -> Rachel Agnes Tookah Chambers1781-1846Mother of -> William Simon Roland "Billy" Norris1816-1892Father of -> John Roland Norris1853-1903Father of -> James "Jim" Roland Norris1883-1930Father of -> Lucy Jane Norris1908-1986Mother of -> John Earl "Johnny" Jones1945-1978Father of -> Timothy Lavon Mitchell - Jones(Given Name at Birth. Oh what a tangled web we weave when we first deceive! Elizabeth Watts Net Worth. Remember what Jesus warned his disciples of, "Do not worry about the speck of dust in your brothers eye when you have plank in your own." It looks like a schizophrenic mess. I guess I'm just looking for more connections about my name and family tree.. DNA test results DO NOT EVER prove even a tribe, much less descendancy from Moytoy. Along the way, the group was attacked by a militant group of frontiersmen during a stop at the Overhill town of Coyatee. I am looking for written paper on Robin Moytoy, daugther of Chief Ostenaco. jeudi 8 novembre 1979, Journaux, Ottawa :[Le droit],1913- . The Booker line did intermarry with Cherokee. One of the Muscogee killed and scalped the boy a few days later. John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. #2 since so far back and DNA didn't show native Indian can I still apply? I am a descendant of Miss Amatoya Taminad-Trader Kanagaota Motoy and Chief Amahetia 'll Moytoy of Tellico. According to my information. Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? PLEASE email me with any information regarding common names, and how you enrolled, who you used so I can see if any of it matches up.KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COMchief murmuring ripplechief morning rippleshawandochief dancing streamchief running stream/ powhatan (the chief powhatan)scent flowermorning scent flower- paupauwiskenonomatatiske winuskewahunsonocockvirginia metis powhatanthomas munsawghewinanuske nonomaopechancanoughnamontackpride chalakahatha cornstalktaminad munsawghelocha quatsy nancy of tellicothomas pasmere corn planter carpenteramatoya moytoy (amadoya) (ama edohi) trader tom carpenterkana-gatoga moytoy- old hop/ stalking turkeysu-gi sookie moytoyanigatagewi moytoyamadoyamadoni moytoysu-gi sallie/sally grannie/granny grasshopperanuwagi peggy moytoycornelius doughertyjames doughertyelizabeth doughertynathan lawsonsampson david lawsongeorge w lawsonmary mahala j lawsoneverette s baldwin (my grandfather)beverly baldwin-bishof (my mom)karyn bishof (me). here are my names below only on my moms dads side, only with moytoys ancestors and decendants. Chief Doublehead was my partner's 6 great grandfather and his daughter Cornblossom my partner's 5th great grandmother. I matched someone who has the Essary Surname. Address: 14591 Cherokee Ln Malakoff, TX 75148 Name: Meagan M Johnson I did the research of names that he shared with me and the best resource to share is Cherokee Lineages by James R. Hicks, Jr. via FamilyTreeMaker.com. (, https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0021-0017.html#IND5015REF31, the marriage of Wurteh to Bloody Fellow is speculative but plausible.. grandmother who was Caroline Carroll. My Grandmother's is named Ethel May (Carpenter ) Fisher . She joined the TV station in August 2016 and anchors the network's news on weeknights and also brings the 360 I don't know of any tribe that uses DNA as a means of proof - You have to be able to prove relationship to somebody on their tribal rolls. Kharma, maybe. Watts led his first major action of the Cherokee-American wars in 1786 against the forces of the State of Franklin over their incursions into the territory of the Overhill Cherokee. I've heard only sketchy tales of being related to Attacullaculla (mostly because my father's parents died when he was young so he didn't get much family history passed down to him.) There was no such person as Mary Bluesky Cornstalk and the name of Parker's second wife, Mary, is unknown. Really it's because the roles have closed except to newborns whose parents must take a DNA test to prove Eastern Cherokee blood. Vivian Watts (D-Annandale) Del. Afterward, the group made a semi-permanent camp along Flint Creek (in the area of the future Unicoi County, Tennessee), harassing, raiding, and attacking white settlers in the surrounding countryside. John Benge [[Benge-104]]: John Benge was a white trader who lived in the Cherokee Nation most of his adult life. says that he was born in Virginia, moved to North Carolina with his mother, and in May, 1785 at the age of 16 or 17 was forced to serve in the War by a step-father named Fielder. Easy, he was selling off Cherokee lands. 2: He made another trip in March 1659 departing Charleston South Carolina aboard the Barbados Merchant, returning on the Concord in August 1659.Jim White, Researcher Author - Legend of The Wolf, 2005, update 2007, update 2009 Lulu Press. The first documented trip made by Thomas Pasmere Carpenter occurred April 1640, sailing from Maryland to Barbados aboard the Hopewell, and returning on the Crispian in September 1640. Amazed (not really) at the numbers of people who post but have no clue about the lack of documentation for Moytoy (more than one alleged) and any possible documented living descendants. It is not the amount of Cherokee you have, it is strictly about the Dawes Roll. Please correct me if I'm wrong.I think many people, especially those that aren't citizens, like the notion of being related to a "chief" in an "indian tribe" as a romantic idea, and what I'm really after is "the truth" about my lineage. Young Tassell married and had children with Mary Johnson (children John and Margaret Watts documented, others possible); Wurteagua Carpenter (Mink, John, Soup and Fish Tail, possible others); Oousta White Owl Hanging Maw (Thomas Rattling Gourd Watts, Two Wood, PeachEater, Elizabeth, Jacob Oostooli Z Watts, Councilor John J); and Tsiyugi (Rachel, John and Mary Polly) - each of these have been documented. They were shallow draft ships, capable of handling shallow water ports with ease. A deposition from Trader Robert Due/Dews from 1777 stated that Old Tassel was the uncle of John Watts Young Tassel. (
[ Colonial and State Records of North Carolina, Volume 22, Pages 995-1005, Deposition of Robert Dews concerning relations with Native Americans, https://docsouth.unc.edu/csr/index.html/document/csr22-0706. James Vann, William Springston, John Shepherd and Edward Adair: . On the way to Knoxville, the war party encountered the small settlement of Cavett's Station. Benge Fielder. I have found record of Elizabeth Judd married to Benjimin Pennell burried in Winkler cemetary in Boone, NC. Chief Vann had nothing to do with Shoeboots' and his slave Doll's children's separation. Clan: Ani'-W'di = Red Paint (Wurteh) I started to check out my matches and my second cousins on GEDMATCH. Youll get hints when we find information about your relatives. I am from England, and have Native American Ancestry, I have tested with Ancestry, 23andme, and FTDNA My half second cousin has also tested his DNA we share a mutual Great grandmother. Vann . Grasshoppers name was Susan. British and new American views were roman-euro-centric, however, and did not politically agree. He was Shawnee and he married his cousin Su-gi Rainmaker. God Bless You . I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. The separation ended at a reunification council with the Cherokee Nation in 1809. 5107126039. There is no documentation to support this conclusion. Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. Very interesting info! Mrs. WATTS maiden name was Elizabeth MILLER. When ELIZABETH WATTS was born in 1755, in Cherokee, Washington, Tennessee, United States, her father, John Watts, was 31 and her mother, Tali Wurteh Red Paint Wadi, was 45. He notes the marriage of Wurteh to Bloody Fellow is speculative but plausible. I believe Nenetoonyah should be detached from Wurteh. The peace party included Bob McLemore, Tahlonteeskee, Captain Charley of Running Water, and Doublehead, as well as the white delegates. Nenetoonyah/Bloody Fellow; [[Moytoy-123]] This comes straight from a theory of James Hicks with zero documentation. It was to be a three-pronged attack: Tahlonteeskee (aka Ataluntiski) would lead a force to ambush the Kentucky road; Middle Striker would take the Walton road; and Watts would lead the main army of 280 Cherokee, Shawnee, and Muscogee warriors against Nashville (it was then the capital of the Miro District of the new Southwest Territory). Perhaps this can help you find what you are looking for. How many slaves did your family own? She was lasoknown as Raven. These men seem to have been separated by 100 years!? If anyone has more info please email me firstname.lastname@example.org. I am surprised that so many people are so negative. Have you found a role number yet? Add tags Comment To link to this object, paste this link in email, IM or document. I do not know to put this together to prove it. How can all these cousin be wrong. Charles Washington Starr. Who was responsible for that? Gentleman Tom was a good friend to James Vann. Could we be related? LDS microfiche #6016960-Volume 95. She had at least 1 daughter with William R. Campbell. I was beside myself with curiosity. Rich Joe, my g-uncle, was killed in 1844 when his steamboat exploded near Louusville. I had heard family rumors that we were descended from Fork Tail WATTS. I have 124 names on the rolls between guion miller and dawes (CN and EB). Circumstantial evidence supports this marriage. Powered by . Not the same person. I have arched on ancestry.com that links it all. 1 1 1 2 5 3 1 4 1 5: Nancy Ann Ivey. I'm so late to the game here, but my maiden last name is Essary (I'm the grand daughter of Ernest Essary) and I too am descended from Amatoya, kanagatoga and Sugi. I really need to know who they were! 658 following. Initially, many emigrants worked with the various Nations, and intermarried without racist views. I neither have to prove myself to you nor defend my ancestors' actions nearly 230 years ago. Her Wikitree profile lists four husbands and five children. Elizabeth Watts (born 1979) is an English operatic soprano. Hit me up if you have any info on this line. Which ties me to Chief Cornstalk "Peter I" and Moytoy II of Tellico. In fact, they were not allowed to be deeded land if Indian or Mixed Blood, or in Virginia, Black (all those of Indian and Mixed blood during one disgraceful era in the commonwealth's history). There is an oral history through my paternal grandfather, William Isaiah Essary that he had Native American blood. DNA can not tell you what tribe you are from. John Watts 1746-1808 was the "mixed-blood", or mixed-race son of British trader John Watts 1704-1779 and a Cherokee mother, Oousta White Owl Carpenter 1722-1768. V. Adams->Wiley Vaughn Adams & Eugenia Olive Adams->Polly Vann (born Terrapin), John Cherokee Oowanee Vann, John Interpreter Vann, John Trader Vann. Ancestry.com is a great place to find these things out especially when you weren't really looking for this. This is so sad. My 10g grandmother is Nancy Ward. Hi Jackie. Social Workers generally specialize in Anxiety and Depression, in addition to other issues..  Watts' parents resided in the Overhill Towns along the Little Tennessee River. I checked ouut the Essary tree looking for any Links to England or Ireland and found nothing as all mainly USA Then I stumbled upon Elizabeth Mcdaniel wo married an Essary. Love finding your site! Query: My great great grandmother, Elizabeth Floyd, married a Cherokee man, name unknown. What is your Mother & grandfathers name? Hello,Sorry you spent so much time Copying and Pasting My Formally Copyrighted Work, published in LEGEND OF THE WOLF, ISBN Formally Registered Globally, which Proves You a Plagarist Guilty of Formal Copyright Infringement. could this be my answer. Many of them falsely or naively claim Moytoy as an ancestor because they, too, have seen fictitious family trees online.  Her mother died about 1876 and she appears alone on the 1880 Cherokee census. this probably makes us distant cousins ronda essary. I'm a descendent of Lucy ward which was in line for queen. He is suppose to be called "The End Of The Trail". Rodney Willett (D-Henrico) Del. Does that ring a bell? 3. I have met many cousins on the King Connect NA on Facebook with Cherokee and Powhatan ancestors. There is no documentation to support this conclusion. I have seen you on my tree links for years. He seems to base his claim on the fact that Bob Benge, Sequoyah, and Talonteskee, known to be related, all lived in the same town at one point. As with most early Cherokee women, almost nothing is known of the woman called Wurteh Watts, the mother of Bob The Bench Benge. Someone actually said Moytoy didn't exist?. Raven Hop Moytoy is my 8th Great Grandmother, I get confused after that. I just found out that I am part of this family! Cornblossum moved among the people and trade towns.the largest cherokee trade town was in what is now kentuckynorth of present tn and ky border. I'be heard researchers say there is no Carpenter Cherokee connection and that it cannot be proved that Thomas Carpenter was ever married to a Cherokee woman or was a ship owner. Go to http://www.parkeradkins.wordpress.com for the details. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. My 5 ggrma is on the Drennen Roll, Martha Whiting. You will be hearing from my Attorney forthwith.Furthermore, Thomas Carpenter did not descend from the Ancient European families Cited on Your BOGUS Website, which his family of Plymouth Devonshire Family did not orginate Europe.The following Quote Was STOLEN From http://dauglaku.com by wannabe Shawnee Liar Don Greene author of Shanee Heritage et al in 2003 which, was and still is a Formal Copyright Registered Trademark Website in Early 2003.The Carpenter family of Devonshire & Plymouth England were small sailing ship owners, many of which were leased out to the East India Trading Company, an affiliation dating to the formation of that company December 31, 1600. I am on Ancestry.com. So, I have decided to write it just like I did to them, and include their emails in the book so at least the information is there! Also related to Pocahontas. We share the same 9th grandfather. Mrs. Elizabeth Watts A Biographic Sketch Route #2, Box 168, Muskogee, Oklahoma By L. D. Wilson, Field Worker Indian-Pioneer History Source of Information received from a . My email is email@example.com. Your family disgraced our people. Ancestry .com is a fantastic resource; but so many of my cousins lock their trees, and my eyes are failing me; the Dawes rolls are not easy to use. I have traced my grandmother Claudia peddycoart to Elizabeth Ravin hop moytoy. I admire the Cherokee for their courage, artistic talent and spiritual wisdom. A deposition from Trader Robert Due/Dews from 1777 stated that Old Tassel was the uncle of John Watts Young Tassel. (] [ Colonial and State Records of North Carolina, Volume 22, Pages 995-1005, Deposition of Robert Dews concerning relations with Native Americans, January 22, 1777. In reply to: Re: Daniel D. Watts - AL b. abt. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. Or any of his descendants? I thought Chief Amatoya Moytoy was/is a full blood Cherokee. John Jolly had a white father, possibly Robert Due, and a Cherokee mother but nothing else is known of his parents. If anyone is interested in exchanging family info please contact me @ firstname.lastname@example.org. Although Watts withdrew from the Overhill Towns along with Dragging Canoe's band, at first he was minimally involved in the raiding they made against American settlers during and after the Revolutionary War. If you have direct family members listed on The Dawes Rolls would that confirm blood lines? Elizabeth Watts's income source is mostly from being a successful . Mullay Roll -1848 A listing of 1,517 Cherokees living in North Carolina after the removal of 1838 Agent John C. Mullay took the Census pursuant to an act of Congress in 1848. Many of the modern surnames in the dictionary can be traced back to Britain and Ireland, Do not sell or share my personal information. What do you know about that identity, Vann? . Follow. 'Cause DNA proves nothing. Can we separate Joseph Benjay from the Benge myth? None of them. William is a well-documented Virginian, DAR patriot # A033306, who left his property to his wife Elizabeth and sons including Moses (will is transcribed on his Wikitree profile). please email me at email@example.com with information thanks!https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/80790518/family, The two children of Parker Adkins who were supposed to belong to Blue Sky were Littleberry & Charity. Thank you for this information! It couldn't have been the Vanns could it? I have since figured out that I may not be descendant of Bluesky, do of Moytoy II of Tellico. Charity did not belong to Blue Sky; there is no reason to believe that she belonged to anyone other than Parker Adkins's wife, Mary. Old Hop and Su-gi had a daughter named Grasshopper and she married David McDaniel a registered Indian trader. Blending a great . Wurteh Elizabeth Watts was born in 1751, in Cherokee, North Carolina, United States as the daughter of John Old Fork Tongue Watts. There are myriad original documents supporting my posted FACTS that were kept by the early Moravians, Indian agents, and military/widows' pensions for service in which the Cherokee participated. We collect and match historical records that Ancestry users have contributed to their family trees to create each persons profile. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770.Her mother was a sister of "Old Tassel", "Doublehead" and "Pumpkin Boy". Sonja Yount firstname.lastname@example.org. Through various historical sources I can find numerous documented accounts of Moytoy of Tellico (who you call Moytoy II), but I find no references anywhere to his father. Mary died either in England or Virginia. Chief Stout Man "Young Peter" Cornstalk. Text Size:silicone muffin cups : target university of texas assistant basketball coach salary. I am going to make a trip to oklahoma, not to far , we now live in Arkansas. Elizabeth Watts filed Cherokee Claim 10622 in 1906 from Ft. Mountain in Murray County, Georgia. He was succeeded by Doublehead. Find Elizabeth Watts's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading people search directory for contact information and public records. Wurteh "Betsy" Watts,was the mother of Chief John Jolly, Chief Robert Benge, Tahlonteeskee Bloody Fellow and Sequoyah. She is also said to have been the mother of George Gist, known by his Cherokee name, "Sequoyah", who is credited as creating the Cherokee alphabet and writing system. I AM TOO. Shawnees had already had at least 150 years of euro-white contact by the time Thomas showed up as a trader. The only reply I got was from his wife who gave me his direct email and still no reply. Yet, I have seen people with as little as 1/500th blood quantum who inspire the spirits of their ancestors because they make being Cherokee a proud part of a their everyday life.". After all, in today's day an age, it's now popular to "be indian".So can someone shed some light on the truth? Every one of us searching needs encouraged, support, and guidance. I just started this ancestry.com. Be proud of your real ancestors, not the ones you "feel in your hearts.". I hope you are wrong!! email@example.com, HEY, DO YOU MATCH WITH ME ON ANCESTRY OR 23 AND ME OR GED MATCH? Watts responded by invading the Holston area with more than 1,000 Cherokee, Muscogee, and Shawnee warriors, one of the largest Indian forces seen in the region. Elizabeth Watts Net Worth. Wurteh had 21 siblings: Adam Alexander Watson, Obediah Andrew Watson and 19 other siblings. Evans, E. Raymond. In my line Tharp marries a female Vance. Even the Troxel(sp?) There is a Heather comment, which doesn't need any cleaning up as far as I am concerned. She married a George Booker. Obediah Benge lived in Georgia while John Benge was also alive and living there. I have had a BIA card since I was about 11 (am 47 now), recently tested my DNA and it does show Native American. Doublehead argued for the former, while James Vann advocated the latter. Could Prachy also have been Captain George Parris. This page was last modified 21:36, 17 April 2015. That said, Many of us are solidly related and are already citizens of the Cherokee Nation. We already know who our relatives are. 18 properties and 17 addresses found on Woods Road in Florence, SC. please advise if anyone has answered this. Remember to check the name spelling and include any additional information you have. As for Corn Blossom GAH wholly fictional. One of my Dad's cousins applied for tribal membership and received it. She would interview me for multiple news stories and her reporting skills were excellent. The one is Oklahoma is closed to new members (How can a nation be closed to legitimate members of the nation? His pension application (images on Fold3 at. ) Old Hop went to live with his Aunt and Uncle Amatoya Moytoy after the death of his parents. Reference URL Share . And him applying for the Dawes Rolls. I'm a descendent of Gosaduisga and have seen some conflicting info, but your research has been insightful. Yes, because of them I have had a better life. Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians (1824-present), Cherokee Nation in Indian Territory (18391907), United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians (1939present), This page was last edited on 30 December 2022, at 05:30. for EB they told me unless my mother was enrolled I cannot be. Obediah Benge lived in Georgia while John Benge was also alive and living there. But I unfortunately have not been able to trase them on the rolls because she married a while man and movies to Tennessee. It is fantastic to know your culture. I believe that could be possible. I'm very interested #1 if I was adopted if on roll can I still apply? Servt.Jim SwordsJamestown/Wmbg, VA. Looks like we are distant cousins through Nancy Ward, Cornstalk, Moytoy and everyone else! Family life. Is that a separate enrollment? Her average salary was $75,507 annually. She married William David MC Daniel in 1752. She married Thomas Lawson Kendrick on Oct 17, 1850 in Cherokee, North Carolina. More research, more questionsbut loving every minute of it! firstname.lastname@example.org I am searching for a legit family tree for Wut-teh or Wurteh Watts, mother to Sequoyah. My mother was a Cherokee woman and my father was a white man. Am I reading this history correct? His user name on Ancestry.com was Tahlequah. Oh my goodness! I learned Chief Oconostota is my 9th Great Grandfather. . Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. Watts, along with Bloody Fellow, Doublehead, and "Young Dragging Canoe" (Tsula), continued to encourage Indian unity in resistance to European-American settlers. Charlotte a. kirkland, My family is also kin to Granny Hopper and Thomas Essary. Chief was born in 1726, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. What did Joseph Vann inherit? Henderson Rolls - 1835 - A listing of 16,000 Cherokees living in Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, & North Carolina to be removed to Oklahoma, per Treaty New Echota. Peruse the muster rolls and Old Settler rolls of Cherokee families and individuals who were forced to IT. She never existed, there is not one schred of factual evidence that she was a real person. She is named in no records and is known only by extrapolation from references to her father, her brother, and her son. In May 2017, Newton-John announced that she had breast cancer that had metastasized to the sacrum. I'm a descendent of stalking turkey. Who are those in your direct Vann line back to her? And I too a very proud of my Cherokee heritage. James Vann somehow managed to acquire numerous ferries and steamboats, vast acreage of lands, and over 100 slaves. I do however wish to validate the claim that someone in the same line, yet closer on my tree, (my 4x great grandparents) were of Cherokee origin. cherokee limestone mesquite washington stafford bastrop harker heights aledo celina elgin wimberley lake dallas tyler . In fact, they're the majority now. This is a magnificent summary of all the research youve done, Kathie! 124 confirmed names, back to chief moytoy yet not accepted.if you have anything to help you can email me at email@example.com, Hello, (very distant) cousin. After all, the real Cherokee were the Chiaha and the Chiaha were connected to all of the mound-pyramid cultures from Illinois, Indiana, Michigan and Ohio clear down to Brazil, Bolivia, and Peru through the ancient trade philosophy of the Kituwa (Sacred Fire). I too am a descendant of Moytoy (he would be 8th grandfather). They had four children, 3 boys and a girl. I do wish to obtain the desired info on these afore-named ancestors coming from 100% qualified and fully verifiable sources. What a tragidy it would be if all those people believing to have these descendents were all mislead. I can see why but I totally look Indian and am Cherokee, Choctaw, Shawnee. You should be trying to think of ways that your family can right the numerous wrongs they committed in the past. He honored the agreement with McGillivray, of the Upper Muscogee, to build blockhouses (from which warriors of both tribes could operate) at Running Water, Muscle Shoals, and at the junction of the Tennessee and Clinch rivers in Alabama. LMAO He is buried in the Old Nation, as is his wife, James' mother, who was born a Vann. Any information on this line would be appreciated. William F. Dorton [[Dorton-166]]: No source is listed for this claim. John Watts father was a white trader and interpreter (also named John Watts) who came into the Cherokee Nation before 1752. I'm June Hicks-Kilpatrick and just posted a link that has your family connection with Old Hops . linking the McDaniels and Cummings. I am of Moytoy decent on my mother's father's side. My last post. The cherokee kings and chiefs and Headmen were generally related in some way in cherokee or other tribes kings and leaders. Alie Keath. Malachi was born in 1813 in Georgia and died in 1864 in Cane Hill, Arkansas. John Watts (or Kunokeski ), also known as Young Tassel, was one of the leaders of the Chickamauga Cherokee (or "Lower Cherokee") during the Cherokee-American wars. These ships usually made stops both directions at Barbados where the family had banking connections set up. . Does anyone else connect to this tree, or have info on this line that they'd be willing to share? Elizabeth said she was born June 15, 1848 in Monroe County, Tennessee and that her parents Hiram Goad and Eliza Jane Nickolson Goad were living there in 1851. . even with all of the info, it means nothing to CN because they were not enrolled during the 7 years they require. Benge Fielder. They are the parents of Henry Watts, born September 28, 1889; Sallie Martha, born June 28, 1892 . John "Old Forked Tongue" Watts (1/2 Blood Cherokee). Yes it does confirm Cherokee Blood lines. Yeah. My 5th great grandmother was Robin Joyce Moytoy " Raven" daugther of Chief Standing Turkey Moytoy Most beloved of the Cherokees Boen in 1704. in TN. I am a direct descendant of Grasshopper and William David McDaniel. Heather, I will be glad to remove it, but I am not sure which one is yours. Don't have a clue what all that means? thanks,Pam Treu firstname.lastname@example.org, Who was your Mother and her father? As with most early Cherokee women she is only described in terms of her relationship to others. 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